ALEXANDRIA, Va. — NCUA Vice Chairman Rodney Hood's background in affordable housing is evident in his views on credit unions and mortgage lending, but Hood is also zeroed in on other issues he sees vital to the future of credit unions.
Credit Union Times offers this special Q&A with the vice chairman to see where his agenda is headed. CU Times: What are some initiatives or pet projects you will be working on through the end of the year and into next year? Hood: I think at the top of that list would be continuing my commitment to fight the data security issues: the fact that we have such credit card fraud and the fact that there have been so many breeches of security. Recently, I saw this as such a pressing issue that I went over to meet with the folks from the Secret Service to get a briefing from them because I recognize that if the credit union system doesn't really get its arms around this, the result could be just devastating on the reputation of the credit union system and also on the viability of some of our credit unions. I even look at this as having implications on safety and soundness if we don't collectively look at things to be done to fight credit card fraud and the data security breeches that exist.
I want to do more to work with the folks within the credit union system and our insurer, the folks over at CUNA Mutual, and other insurers, who can really help the credit unions come up with viable plans and action steps to help their members be empowered to hold onto their identity and prevent credit card abuse and things like that through fraud.
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Another issue that I really take seriously…I'm the agency's liaison to the Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation. That dovetails beautifully with my whole background and commitment to affordable housing and serving the underserved…Not only do I get to work with serving underserved but I'm doing this in tandem with the other financial regulators so it's a wonderful opportunity for us all to share best practices and things that are going on in our respective industries. I've enjoyed working with [NRC] at some of their housing events where we get the chance to provide financial literacy, homeownership counseling, and things of that nature. CU Times: There has been some talk that credit unions aren't getting as deep into the C and D lending paper as they need to be and, in relation to homeownership, how are you encouraging credit unions to get more involved? Hood: I think right now the important thing is making sure that the financial education is there, that you really are looking at training the borrowers and getting them comfortable with what credit is and how to make the transition from renter to homeownership. I think that rather than refer to it as C and D paper, I think that perhaps as credit unions continue their education pursuits that I would like to see some type of risk-based pricing in terms of having a mortgage product. My only issue with that is I want to make sure there is a secondary market for it and I also want to make sure that if we are going to price those loans regarding the risk the credit union's taken on that it doesn't borderline predatory lending in any way, that it doesn't make it such a high rate that it defeats the purpose of the credit unions trying to offer affordable mortgages.
That would take a lot of additional research…and also seeing if there are maybe other things that can be done such as if you train the borrower and help them repair their credit such that then they get a more affordable mortgage product. Now we're talking about pre-purchase counseling but also the importance of post-purchase counseling.
Another community development tool is our member business lending that credit unions are allowed to offer as well. That also creates and stabilizes communities and also creates small businesses and new jobs. CU Times: With member business lending, you're presenting it as part of community development, but the banks have always taken issue. Do you think credit unions are in danger of overstepping their bounds? Hood: No, not at all. Credit unions, since their inception, have always been able to make member business loans. It's only been since H.R. 1151 that the cap was imposed. I know the bank advocates love saying that credit unions are stepping into this new territory. I, as a former banker–a former commercial loan officer, recognize that there are some loans that banks cannot make because they would be cost-prohibitive. For them to make a $50,000 small business loan, to make a $10,000 loan for capital or inventory for a small business, they cannot do that. Their infrastructure does not reward them for doing that. CU Times: You've spoken a lot recently about credit unions serving those in the military. What is the special niche that credit unions can provide to them? Hood: The military and the credit unions have almost like a, I wouldn't say symbiotic relationship, but it's close because the credit unions really know their members. They have the extra service that keeps their members informed and I think financial literacy and outreach and counseling. As we talk about financial literacy, for the general public it may mean one thing, but with your enlisted folks you have unique challenges that folks in the general population don't have. They can go away and be enlisted for years at a time on foreign soil, meaning that they sign lots of documents giving their power of attorney to friends and loved ones, things that, if misused, could damage their credit. CU Times: As I understand it, there's permitted one bank and one credit union branch on base. Are the banks doing these same things? Hood: I really don't know. I haven't polled them. When I've traveled, I've seen some of the banks there on the base. I will say it looks like our parking lot seems to be much fuller. That's just my assessment. CU Times: These are also, like Navy Federal and Pentagon, some of the credit unions the banks like to rail against. It's interesting that these credit unions are the larger ones in particular that are going to extra lengths to serve the members of the military. Hood: They are and I just think it's the empty rhetoric. Because they have such wonderful success records, I applaud them all for going the extra mile and not resting on their laurels but really serving their members. CU Times: Is there anything else you are focused on that credit unions should know about? Hood: If there is one thing I could add as a sidebar to the military, is really making sure that we fight predatory lending. I'm fortunate to be from North Carolina where predatory lending is outlawed meaning a lot of those unscrupulous financial service providers who prey upon our military folks and give them those high interest rate loans for cars…those folks have all been run out of town. The credit unions that are working with our military in North Carolina came up with alternative products to really help them. Predatory lending is something I will continue to speak out against around the country. –[email protected]
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