LAS VEGAS – Responding to Congressional and court pressures, NCUA is working on two clarifying regulations this summer dealing with the Utah underserved case and bank charter conversions and is considering a third on CUSOs, NCUA Board Member Gigi Hyland told NACUSO's annual convention meeting here last week. In a general session talk Tuesday, Hyland gave no firm timetable as to when any of the rules might be released but said at least two of the issues – CUSOs and the America First FCU/field of membership case in Utah – are related to congressional inquiries. Both deal with the modest means/underserved test of CU and CUSO powers as first raised last November by House Ways and Means Committee Chairman William Thomas (R-Calif.). Hyland, who was joined on a NACUSO panel by Gary J. Kohn, her senior policy advisor and a former CUNA lobbyist, stressed the issues are complicated “but are something that we have to address” to fulfill a congressional request. As for CUSOs and their use of the limited liability structure as tied to the tax-exemption, she said NCUA as well as industry trade groups were asked first in November and then in subsequent communications from the Government Accountability Office to come up with extensive data detailing CUSO numbers, income, products and operations. Much of that data has been hard to come by, but NCUA does understand the concerns of lawmakers over transparency in the LLC structure, said Hyland. Still, based on the productive role CUSOs have played in industry growth and their worth in financial markets, “I am adamant,” she said, against putting the CU structure in jeopardy though restrictive controls on the favored LLC vehicle. The possible CUSO regulations, said the NCUA officials, are aimed more at clearing up the role of LLCs as linked to profit-making elements, how much income is earned, and how much is passed back to the CU. In all of the congressional probes on CUSOs and on the Utah court case which triggered a moratorium on underserved areas following the order of a Salt Lake City federal judge, Hyland expressed grave concern about putting CU expansion and structure at risk over the modest means/underserved test.

In her NACUSO remarks, she gave two examples of the futility of developing blanket modest means regulations as applied to CUs with diverse structure and charter.

“Take World Bank Federal Credit Union in Washington where the minimum salaries of members is $80,000-$90,000 a year,” she said making it difficult to place a modest means definition on that CU.

Or the case of a Toyota credit union in Paducah, Ky. “where the salaries are $50,000 and that is a great salary in that market,” she said. “So you can see this is a difficult issue,” Hyland said, noting that data collection can demonstrate how CUs serve all of their members not just those of modest means.

On NCUA issuing regulations regarding America First FCU, she said clarification is needed on the ability of multiple group common bond charters to expand under FOM/underserved authority, particularly where multiple groups switch to a community charter. The question arises of what to do about pre-existing underserved facilities after a community charter is granted, she said.

On conversions, she said the rules to be developed would concern member disclosure and the timing of ballot distribution.

The goal, she said, is to ensure the ballots are clearly marked “in plain English” so that a member can clearly know and decide “yes or no” whether he is voting in favor or against a conversion to a mutual savings bank.

Regarding the CUSO LLC issue, Hyland told the NACUSO attendees she has been in touch with Guy Messick, the trade group's legal counsel, about drafting possible NCUA rules, praising the Philadelphia attorney for his cooperation and input.

Messick, who introduced Hyland to the NACUSO audience, earlier told a breakout session on Monday that he was conducting an informal membership survey on what to include in CUSO data going to NCUA in preparation for such regulatory rulings.

He said he hoped to gather more opinions from NACUSO leaders during the week with plans to send a fact sheet to NCUA's Robert Fenner, the agency's legal counsel, sometime in June. Suggesting the “politics could get hot” over the issue, Messick said CUSOs through their trade groups need to come up with answers and a strategy, which he hoped could be fleshed out at the NACUSO meeting.

He told Credit Union Times that any NCUA rules drafted on CUSOs might be issued in August.

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